tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post3237827135088472402..comments2024-01-14T15:52:43.644-05:00Comments on The Thirteenth Depository - A Wheel of Time Blog: Knife of Dreams Read-through #2: Suroth Rules OK!Dominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17610557134981958201noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-49879787312726597012010-06-18T06:22:08.707-04:002010-06-18T06:22:08.707-04:00And now you are misreading me. Moghedien is the st...And now you are misreading me. Moghedien is the stern woman who reminds Rendra of Rendra's older sister.<br /><br /><br />Liandrin tells us that Liandrin's father sold fruit from a barrow. She describes herself as a commoner Taraboner and as having grown up starting enviously at the Lords' palaces in Tanchico.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-47775498211818147392010-06-17T21:47:55.213-04:002010-06-17T21:47:55.213-04:00You misunderstood Linda. I never claimed that Lia...You misunderstood Linda. I never claimed that Liandrin brought Moghedien to the 'Three Plum Court' Inn. Yes, that was Rendra who introduced Nynaeve & Elayne to a stern women. I have no idea where you got this claim, <i>"And the stern woman Rendra ushers in is Moghedien not Liandrin."</i>Didanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-58696041019343083992010-06-17T06:51:56.247-04:002010-06-17T06:51:56.247-04:00Because you remembered wrongly Dida. Moghedien tie...Because you remembered wrongly Dida. Moghedien tied the shield on Liandrin. And she used saidar.<br /><br />And the stern woman Rendra ushers in is Moghedien not Liandrin.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-43657138433764444222010-06-17T04:36:02.521-04:002010-06-17T04:36:02.521-04:00Moridin's shield on Liandrin was inverted and ...Moridin's shield on Liandrin was inverted and used the True Power not saidin nor saidar. <br /><br />So <i>how</i> would the Sul'dam or Damane see that Liandrin is a channeler, even though she has an ageless face?<br /><br /><br /> Liandrin is a big question going into ToM Book. Did she escape Ebou Dar? Did the Seekers capture her? Did Suroth breakdown about who Liandrin is or was, and to whom? <br /><br /><br />--<i>Might</i> Liandrin warn Empress Fortuona that she is in danger?<br />Recall that property does not have to knock to gain entrance to see the Empress, and Liandrin is property in the Seanchan view.<br /><br /><br />--Is Liandrin an possibly an <i>ex-Tinker</i> Wilder? <br /><br />--Who's younger sister <i>Rendra</i> is an Innkeeper at '<i>Three Plum Court</i>' in Tanchico? Well, becoming an Innkeeper is what many ex-Tinkers choose to become <i>if</i> they are cast out or choose to live among city folk. <br /><br />'The Shadow Rising' Chapter 39<br /><i>Nynaeve gasped at her first sight of the innkeeper, a pretty woman not much older than herself with brown eyes and pale honey braids, her veil not hiding a plump rosebud of a mouth. Elayne gave a start, too, but it was not Liandrin. The woman—her name was Rendra—obviously knew Domon well.</i> <br /><br />'The Shadow Rising' Chapter 46<br /><i>Rendra came bustling between the tables with a smile on her rosebud lips behind her veil. <b>Elayne wished she did not look so much like Liandrin.</b>. “Ah. You are so pretty this morning. Your dresses, they are magnificent. Beautiful.” As if the honey-haired woman had not had as much to do with choosing the fabric and cut as they. <b>Her own was red enough for a Tinker</b> and definitely not suitable for public. </i><br /><br /><br />I always thought it ironic that Nynaeve, Elayne never accidentially let Rendra know that there were looking for Liandrin---who most likely is her older sister.<br /><br /><br />Here Rendra makes comment about her mean 'older sister' --Liandrin?--and possibly a family connection to Tinkers--'the Bush':<br /><br /><i>“A stern woman, I think. When first she saw me, <b>she looked at me as my older sister did when we were children and she was thinking of tying my braids to the bush.”</b></i><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />Yet it seems Liandrin finally will <i>turn to the cause of the light</i> after being beaten down, tortured, shielded. Besides having seeds of doubt, and tensions about the Shadow since at least '<i>The Great Hunt' Chapter 5</i> where readers get the first chance to see Liandrin's own point of view:<br /><br /><i>"Afternoon shadows gave way to evening as Liandrin made her way through the women’s apartments. Beyond the arrowslits, darkness grew and pressed on the light from the lamps in the corridor. <b>Twilight was a troubled time for Liandrin of late, that and dawn.</b> At dawn the day was born, just as twilight gave birth to night, but at dawn, night died, and at twilight, day. The Dark One’s power was rooted in death; he gained power from death, and at those times she thought she could feel his power stirring. Something stirred in the half dark, at least. Something she almost thought she could catch if she turned quickly enough, something she was sure she could see if she looked hard enough." </i>Didanoreply@blogger.com