tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post5008271305922353397..comments2024-01-14T15:52:43.644-05:00Comments on The Thirteenth Depository - A Wheel of Time Blog: The Gathering Storm Read-Through #42: Chapter 39 - A Visit From Verin SedaiDominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17610557134981958201noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-31006942486319945282012-04-10T14:09:29.164-04:002012-04-10T14:09:29.164-04:00Missed a line in the last post.
A selfish person ...Missed a line in the last post.<br /><br />A selfish person wouldn't orchestrate his/her own death for the greater good. Only an unselfish act would allow for betrayal.Manetherenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136085597386765947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-55003656944003935042012-04-10T14:05:36.236-04:002012-04-10T14:05:36.236-04:00Pertaining to the the loophole about only being ab...Pertaining to the the loophole about only being able to betray the Dark One in the last hour of one's life.<br /><br />It is a theory of mine (and my friends) that the loophole is a requirement in the sense that for all his desire to break the Pattern, The Dark One is also bound to it. For all the Dark One's power and chaotic tendencies, this is a restriction that even he is forced to abide by, which would certainly be an added incentive to be free of it himself. The loophole is meant for those who have turned to the Shadow, in their last hour of life, the chance to turn back to the light and be saved. <br /><br />Even today, people in their death beds are known to accept Jesus Christ as his/her savior and based on Christian beliefs they are saved despite it being at the end.<br /><br />What is the most powerful oath given in WOT? "I swear under the light of my life and hope of rebirth."<br /><br />The Dark Oaths are based on selfishness, and as we have seen through all the books, all of the darkfriends have been just that. They believe they will be among the exulted when the Great Lord is victorious. They do dark deeds, scheme and murder without regret if it gets them ahead. Additionally, every one of them have experienced pretty nasty and unexpected deaths. People don't often choose their time of death and thus would require a self sacrifice. The Darkfriends wouldn't dream of turning away from the Dark One, or if they did probably wouldn't bring death on themselves at a time of their choosing just to turn away. <br /><br />Verin did just that. Chose her time of death, knowing, especially at so crucial of a time, it was her only way to fight for the Light and receive redemption for her soul and hope of rebirth.Manetherenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136085597386765947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-18966027276618127202011-09-23T14:54:57.501-04:002011-09-23T14:54:57.501-04:00She might have, for all we know. The timelines are...She might have, for all we know. The timelines are definitely messed up badly.Csarmasz, Mátéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711591828502622263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-5056416931018008892011-09-22T07:40:36.183-04:002011-09-22T07:40:36.183-04:00I have seen two timelines: Steven Cooper's Tel...I have seen two timelines: Steven Cooper's Tellings of the Wheel which has the gap between Verin leaving Mat and arriving at the Tower as 27 days, and one sketched out by Bob Kluttz of Encyclopedia WOT for the gap between the events as 14 days. Steven Coopers timeline is pre TOM, Bob Kluttz' takes events in TOM into account. I take these as the max and min time gap. Verin might have told Mat she intended to be back the next day, but she certainly didn't go straight to the Tower.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-14655559751008793272011-09-21T01:15:26.786-04:002011-09-21T01:15:26.786-04:00Some say that it's been ONE day since Verin le...Some say that it's been ONE day since Verin left Mat (she travelled there as soon as she could). Surely it is impossible tell, because of the completely messed up and confusing timeline. Certainly not 27 days, however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-44907784336190244212011-09-20T18:16:45.623-04:002011-09-20T18:16:45.623-04:00I'm re-reading for the first time in 6 years a...I'm re-reading for the first time in 6 years and knowing what happens to Verin, I was surprised how much she was involved with Rand and all that from the beginning. I had forgotten so much that had happened in the early books.<br /><br />There are plenty of hints that make sense now... I'm on Lord of Chaos right now, and it's there in Chapter 11, when Verin thinks about seventy years of delicate work. And later, when she thinks about "breaking a few customs in my time." Some nice little tidbits that don't really make sense at the time, but do now.Brad Murgenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513148650073617139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-27691309870350343242011-09-20T17:15:08.587-04:002011-09-20T17:15:08.587-04:00Thanks for another great read, Linda. I have one q...Thanks for another great read, Linda. I have one question, though. How do you know it has been 27 days between Verin leaving Mat and meeting Egwene? Verin told Mat that she intended to return to him in one day. This suggests to me that she went more or less straight to the White Tower, after distributing her letters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-63952347569703692722011-09-20T16:15:52.695-04:002011-09-20T16:15:52.695-04:00I always assumed that the hour grace period was in...I always assumed that the hour grace period was in the DOs plans. The planned purge allows him to gather all of his followers in the blight for a re-incarnation. Thus the Dreadlords.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com