tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post5278380171053663816..comments2024-01-14T15:52:43.644-05:00Comments on The Thirteenth Depository - A Wheel of Time Blog: Towers of Midnight Read-Through #26: Chapter 19 - Talk of DragonsDominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17610557134981958201noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-47703065464125771202012-07-05T04:20:55.407-04:002012-07-05T04:20:55.407-04:00the third book the dragon reborn matt after he was...the third book the dragon reborn matt after he was healed of his ties to the dagger recalled ordering the heart guard to advance. i think that a few of his memories involving manetheren are his past lives. also there is no telling what the dagger or rather mordeth may have planted into matt's head. as for his trip to 'finnland the shadow is most likely aware of the fact he went there, but i wonder what ties to the shadow do the 'finns have? morididn seems to be able to enter and leave without any problems and doesn't seem to have to pay any price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-46263224428416662782012-07-04T16:11:07.785-04:002012-07-04T16:11:07.785-04:00Mat's memories are certainly not is own past l...Mat's memories are certainly not is own past lives. I can't remember which book, but there is an instance where Mat reminisces about some of those memories and remembers one of the battles/war(?) and that he has memories from people on both sides. I could be wrong, as I'd have to re-read the series over again to find it.Manetherenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136085597386765947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-67596717858359759042012-07-04T13:34:42.337-04:002012-07-04T13:34:42.337-04:00Another thoughtful analysis of a key scene! Linda,...Another thoughtful analysis of a key scene! Linda, what a great observation that entrepreneurship comes naturally for a trickster. While Sanderson's Mat comes off a little differently from Jordan's, he retains his core characteristics, and I think this scene with Elayne is terrific in terms of plot movement and character development, for both of them. <br /><br />In conclusion: yay!Fragrant Elephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622569777207864974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-37981210409299496522012-07-01T06:55:38.374-04:002012-07-01T06:55:38.374-04:00Matthew: We can hope that she is being paid. Not b...Matthew: We can hope that she is being paid. Not by Mat, judging by her remark about his money chest being the thing that he pays a lot of attention to.<br /><br />She may want revenge on the Seanchan, but I doubt that cannon will be used on them. It would be a waste of people who could be fighting the Shadow. Also: revenge isn't always what it was anticipated to be.<br /><br />tball: Mat's military knowledge came from his memories given by the Finns, and these are from adventurers who entered the Finn's world, often in the Tower of Ghenjei, wich RJ said was famous in earlier times.<br /><br /><br />Dressage Boy: Early in the books Mat used to spout a bit of Old Tongue and this was attributed to his having "Old Blood". Egwene has a bit too, which is why she almost understood what Mat was saying, but not as strongly as Mat. However, as Birgitte points out to Mat (because she's the only one with this knowledge) after he gained memories from the Finns he could do the Old Tongue in different accents. These being from different times and nations of the Third Age.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-63234342350353774512012-07-01T02:03:48.891-04:002012-07-01T02:03:48.891-04:00Linda,
Great post, thanks! Has there been any ex...Linda,<br /><br />Great post, thanks! Has there been any explanation, (by RJ, BS, or in the forums) aside from <i>"...the old blood runs strong in The Two Rivers"</i> for Mat's spouting the old tongue? Because he does it waaaay before he ever visits the Finns. If he's not channeling past lives, why IS he the only person thru 13 books, who has popped off in the old tongue unconsciously? <br /><br />The old blood may run strong, as evidenced by the number of girls the Aes Sedai have brought from Emonds Field to the White Tower, but none of the other Two Rivers folk exhibit this behavior. So who IS Mat? Is he perhaps a H.O.T.H. reborn?<br /><br />DressageboyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-32594851357219004492012-06-30T18:31:12.065-04:002012-06-30T18:31:12.065-04:00Anon 2 - I believe Matt's memories are not his...Anon 2 - I believe Matt's memories are not his own (though I suppose some could be) but memories of soldiers from many periods of history. IIRC, there are a couple of moments when Matt recalls having memories of opposing soldiers from the same battle.<br /><br />I recall discussions on blogs (and the old rec.arts. days in the late 90s) that the memories were from soldiers who had visited the Finn worlds. I don't remember if Jordan ever clarified that.t ballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-52623367214084021052012-06-30T09:58:54.399-04:002012-06-30T09:58:54.399-04:00I think Aludra got what she wanted. These weapons ...I think Aludra got what she wanted. These weapons will be used against Seanchan. She gets revenge. I'm sure the Crown will pay her handsomly besides even if that wasn't hammered out in the meeting.Matthew Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12202814993979844384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-35495998440865823982012-06-30T06:12:02.584-04:002012-06-30T06:12:02.584-04:00Thanks, Anonymous. I think that poor management is...Thanks, Anonymous. I think that poor management is responsible for more failures of enterprises than any other cause.<br /><br />It so happens that I was reading over the chapters after Mat visits Rhuidean. Mat's battle knowledge comes from the memories the *Finns gave him. He is aware of this as he tries to figure out what is going on, and how they work.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-30407715778583564102012-06-29T22:39:38.559-04:002012-06-29T22:39:38.559-04:00Linda,
Thanks again for your very entertaining and...Linda,<br />Thanks again for your very entertaining and insightful read-throughs.<br /><br />Your comment about the inherit weakness of heirarchial organisations is very true. If a leader is promoted for reasons other than for their wisdom, competence and experiece (which often happens), then in times of need, disaster often results.<br /><br /><br />I have been wondering if Mat's battle savvy from the Finns was his own past lives experiences or just the collected memories of previous battle leaders stuffed into his head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-82669994765153027712012-06-29T09:47:34.395-04:002012-06-29T09:47:34.395-04:00Mat ALWAYS is responsible toward his men, even if ...Mat ALWAYS is responsible toward his men, even if he doesn't give it much thought. This is in marked contrast to Rand, who obsessing over it without it amounting to much in action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com