tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post1147834853448605935..comments2024-01-14T15:52:43.644-05:00Comments on The Thirteenth Depository - A Wheel of Time Blog: A Memory of Light Read-through #28: Chapter 25—Quick FragmentsDominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17610557134981958201noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-71447872524120647472017-04-12T08:02:25.003-04:002017-04-12T08:02:25.003-04:00Thanks, Chris, glad you liked it. I think that she...Thanks, Chris, glad you liked it. I think that she was Compelling him rather than manipulating his dreams. Graendal is entering the dream directly--just as the Wise Ones said the Forsaken used to do. I'm not sure if she comes out to do the Compelling or not. I'll be on the lookout in subsequent chapters.<br /><br />Graendal is a woman of extremes. She has a real taste for them, too, as she said in TOM. Very subtle, but also bold. Very ugly and also gorgeous.<br /><br />I guess the implication with Moghedien is that she should have stuck with the Shadows and slunk away. By skulking she ended up the last Forsaken standing--and then stood out a little too much!Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-36757736462467603272017-04-11T09:13:28.985-04:002017-04-11T09:13:28.985-04:00Oh, by the way - "Moksha, on the other hand, ...Oh, by the way - "Moksha, on the other hand, is a Hindu concept in which the cycle of rebirth ends with the soul being united with, and understanding, the whole universe as the Self." <br /><br />Actually, of course, moksha is one of the three Ravers, the ancient servants of Lord Foul the Despiser. Moksha is also known as Jehannum or Fleshharrower. :)Chris Cottinghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012170996453011388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-6441138419572264222017-04-11T09:10:19.769-04:002017-04-11T09:10:19.769-04:00Enjoyable post, Linda, thanks!
Re: Siuan, I part...Enjoyable post, Linda, thanks! <br /><br />Re: Siuan, I particularly like the observation about her mistrust being turned in the wrong direction (worrying about Egwene and not Bryne). However, I vaguely recall from early books that Lan's Warder bond protected his dreams, so I found Gareth's vulnerability to be a bit odd. However, I'm rereading FoH now, and Lanfear says she could break through Rand's wards on his dreams if she chose, so the protection isn't absolute. And of course Graendal is using the dream world to get to Gareth and use Compulsion, not to enter or manipulate his dreams per se. Remind me - Graendal's entering T'A'R in the flesh, right? Is she exiting into the waking world to do her Compulsion of the generals? <br /><br />I also like the comparison of Moghedien's indirection vs. Graendal's bold and direct methods. Also in FoH, Rahvin thinks that Graendal is lacking in subtlety. Obviously we learn otherwise from other POVs, including Sammael, and of course Rand's comments in TGS. Graendal's capable of great subtlety, but also capable of bold, direct action at need. Moghedien, even at the Last Battle, is still hiding in the shadows. <br /><br />Ironic, then, that her bold action at the end of the book (in taking on Demandred's appearance) is what leads to Moghedien's downfall, too. Chris Cottinghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012170996453011388noreply@blogger.com