tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post5555104196738642284..comments2024-01-14T15:52:43.644-05:00Comments on The Thirteenth Depository - A Wheel of Time Blog: The Gathering Storm Read-Through #36: Chapter 33 - A Conversation with the DragonDominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17610557134981958201noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-45204291271867474532011-07-30T22:26:49.584-04:002011-07-30T22:26:49.584-04:00and yes i know i shouldnt really have taim in my c...and yes i know i shouldnt really have taim in my cool list but he is my tutor for typos 101 so i had to give him a shout out.<br />pass that class and i get my masters degree in expressive sarcasm from the black towerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-85160900007981731062011-07-30T22:10:52.036-04:002011-07-30T22:10:52.036-04:00i dont get all the females in the books bashing be...i dont get all the females in the books bashing berelain anyway. egwene hated her on sight but i always discount her views as bullcrap so no prop there. elayne thinks shes a slut but her own mother has 3 times the lovers berelain has and is now on her second marriage so i dont get what her problem is.<br />faile annoys me but she ssays that the only reason she dislikes berelain is because she was after her husband and doesnt seem to care about her sex life unless it could involve wolf boy. not that faile can judge anyone else since she had no problem being in perrin bedroom when he was naked at what 16? add that to her hints at dancing she is probably level or ahead of her in lovers.<br /><br />the aiel like her, min seems to get along with her beyond trying to out flirt each other but lots of female readers think she is evil is this just jealousy or am i miss reading her quotes.<br /><br />the cool list for me <br />mat/rand<br />birgitte<br />min<br />nynaeve/ aviendha<br />berelain<br />rhuarc/ gaul/ logain<br />any of the bands officers/ taim<br /><br />everyone else can sod off and the books would still be goodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-6343377264588597902011-07-30T21:46:18.398-04:002011-07-30T21:46:18.398-04:00which is strange as mat one of the few we can almo...which is strange as mat one of the few we can almost kinda certain isnt a darkfriend has ravens everywhere but berelain who several females i know seem to want to be one has no connections to ravens that ive seen.<br /><br />but this still doesnt explain mats connection to hawks before his marriage or his training methods gaining huge success with the band which might have led to comparisions with hawkwingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-45241635495022810882011-07-30T18:39:44.661-04:002011-07-30T18:39:44.661-04:00Ah, OK. Yes, they have links to hawks in common. B...Ah, OK. Yes, they have links to hawks in common. Berelain isn't linked to ravens yet though.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-57374172955987680922011-07-30T00:28:51.349-04:002011-07-30T00:28:51.349-04:00linda i knew what she meant i was saying now ity m...linda i knew what she meant i was saying now ity means a bit more as they have a lot in common nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-11337449246914938412011-07-29T12:52:37.539-04:002011-07-29T12:52:37.539-04:00how would she know that it looks like the first ti...how would she know that it looks like the first time they have talked and he was rude to her very charmingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-74806147296888070132011-07-29T07:14:46.535-04:002011-07-29T07:14:46.535-04:00Dressageboy: The link probably occurred when their...Dressageboy: The link probably occurred when their balefires crossed. That is what Lews Therin speculated anyway. All 3, LT, Rand and Moridin, are aware they are linked long before Rand's epiphany on Dragonmount. <br /><br />Anon: When Berelain said she and Mat were too alike, she meant in the way they flirted and charmed people.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767984732078916662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-57279898368255882922011-07-28T17:10:57.451-04:002011-07-28T17:10:57.451-04:00why did Mats soldiers start getting hawk tats back...why did Mats soldiers start getting hawk tats back in lord of chaos was there a hawk reference i missed or was it an early shot at the deathwatch guards and the pattern showing mat to be Hawkwings true heir through Tuon, might explain why the First thought they were to much alikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-9447189671118478812011-07-28T14:55:23.973-04:002011-07-28T14:55:23.973-04:00This chapter shows why to me Nynaeve is the greate...This chapter shows why to me Nynaeve is the greatest Aes Sedai since the breaking she is actually talking to someone and understanding their view not assuming everything at a glance. <br /><br />This is the first time I can remember an Aes Sedai doing this the whole series every other has always approached a conversation as a lecture to someone stupider than they are but she comes off as a human being in this chapter.<br />Rand’s position was logical and very Aes Sedai just not pleasant or right and it is hard to argue with pure logic that doesn’t involve true understanding which is something I don’t think most of Tar Valon gets.<br /><br />She has done great things for the world but isn’t pure ego and is still willing to listen even if she doesn’t like what she is hearing. Then compare her to Egwene who some Aes Sedai think will be the greatest Amyrlin ever she always works on assumptions and I cant think of a single time that she has truly worked with Rand since Fal Dara or had a single real conversation with him.<br /><br />She accuses him of arrogance for wearing Aviendha’s gift because she assumes he had it made and never asks where it came from when he got it from someone who is supposed to one of her best friends. She never tries to understand him at all and thinks he is arrogant or crazy when he does something she doesn’t like but has done nothing to earn his trust and be told why he is doing these things. <br /><br />She is a baby Cadsuane without the experience or knowledge to pull it off and when her pitiful attempts at manipulations fail she either throws a tantrum and storms off or blames his arrogance for it not working instead of realizing he is smarter than her or that he has good reasons for being secretive and not trusting her.<br /><br />Actually despite everything Rand has done that the Aes Sedai call insane or arrogant or actually are completely nuts none of these ever bothered me as we saw them through his eyes and you could see the reasoning behind them even when that reason wasn’t very good. In these last two books he has gotten we have seen a lot more of his craziness from other perspectives and they finally started to bother me and then he became annoyingly sane and spoiled the fun of being of him being creepy for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833204375789249557.post-49344510690303459742011-07-28T12:24:20.281-04:002011-07-28T12:24:20.281-04:00Linda? As always, thank you for your insight/s an...Linda? As always, thank you for your insight/s and attention to detail. My question strays a bit from the present chapter but does tie in, sort of. When and <i>how</i> did the link to Moridin occur? Was it when their balefire blasts crossed? And is it clear that neither of them realizes this connection? That is, to the extent that they could/would exploit it. To follow this to its logical conclusion, after Dragonmount, is Rand aware of his connection to Moridin because I don't recall evidence of such an awareness.<br /><br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com